Abstract Poetry · Culture
· 25 min 4 sec · Hosted by Daniel Lucas
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Episode notes and listening options →What can poetry offer when life brings pain that cannot simply be fixed or hurried past? In this episode of Abstract Poetry 101, Daniel Lucas welcomes Autumn Williams, author of the chapbook Waves and the poetry collection Clouds on the Ground. Autumn writes contemporary poetry influenced by her experience living with myalgic encephalomyelitis, also known as ME/CFS. She describes how she aims to make the poems resonate beyond her own circumstances, giving readers language for hardship, loss, longing, and the need to feel understood. Her work makes room for difficult experiences without asking people to ignore their pain or “just look on the bright side.” Autumn explains the image behind Clouds on the Ground. During a period when ME/CFS left her bedbound and movement was difficult, she imagined clouds resting on the ground—a peaceful place she could reach without moving upward. That image became a personal visualization and later inspired the collection’s title and a poem within the book. The conversation explores the collection’s central themes of time, loss, and dreams. Autumn reflects on how time can feel slow during illness yet seem to move quickly as life continues; how loss can involve health, relationships, or hoped-for futures; and how dreams can offer a place for imagination, escape, and reflection. Join Daniel and Autumn for a thoughtful conversation about poetry, chronic illness, vulnerability, and the power of finding words for experiences that can otherwise feel isolating. Clouds on the Ground invites readers to recognize both the beauty that may be present now and the realities they are still learning to carry. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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